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Our telephones rule our lives. We love them, we hate them. Somewhere deep down inside, we hope they by no means go away. But, if current gross sales information is to be believed, we’re additionally extremely uninterested in smartphones—so bored in truth that we’re shopping for far fewer of them than we used to.

This week, we speak about what the longer term seems like for smartphones. They’ll probably get extra foldable, their voice options may develop chattier, and so they may even include a chip to acknowledge AI-generated nonsense and block it like spam. WIRED senior editor and famous techno-grouser Jason Kehe joins our dialog about the way forward for the telephone and the way forward for our souls.

Show Notes

Read Lauren’s interviews with 5 distinguished technologists as they predict the telephone’s future. The story is a part of our WIRED 30 package deal celebrating our thirtieth anniversary as a publication.


Jason recommends Anaximander and the Birth of Science by Carlo Rovelli. Lauren recommends swimming and not podcasting. Mike recommends Why Buddhism Is True by Robert Wright.

Jason Kehe will be discovered on Twitter @jkehe. Lauren Goode is @LaurenGoode. Michael Calore is @snackfight. Bling the primary hotline at @GadgetLab. The present is produced by Boone Ashworth (@booneashworth). Our theme music is by Solar Keys.

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